#13539 - 06/27/10 03:24 PM
U-rigs working too....<")))><
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"Wall Hanger"
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#13540 - 06/27/10 03:51 PM
Re: U-rigs working too....<")))><
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"Wall Hanger"
Registered: 05/23/09
Posts: 421
Loc: Georgia
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Sometime the u-rig is what it takes. Looks like you figured it out for the morning. Good job, nice fish. Getkidsfishing
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#13552 - 06/28/10 03:39 PM
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"Small Fry"
Registered: 10/13/09
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Bill,
Thanks for your tips on the sidescan! I'm the guy that called you out of the blue today!
I'm gonna try moving faster and see if that helps.
Thanks again, you are are a gentleman and a scholar!
Big Tex
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#13714 - 07/08/10 06:53 PM
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"Wall Hanger"
Registered: 05/23/09
Posts: 351
Loc: Oakwood,GA
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Did yoy say 205'. Wow thats out there.
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#13724 - 07/09/10 12:12 AM
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"Line Breaker"
Registered: 11/25/07
Posts: 1123
Loc: Cumming, GA
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Did yoy say 205'. Wow thats out there. I've run them out that far when i need to run them at 30'.
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#13727 - 07/09/10 12:40 AM
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"Line Breaker"
Registered: 11/25/07
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Loc: Cumming, GA
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When i am running with 130# braid, 2oz rigs, with 8 3/4oz jigs and 1 1oz jig, at 200' it is running right at 30'.
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#13970 - 07/27/10 09:32 AM
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"Line Breaker"
Registered: 07/15/10
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Did yoy say 205'. Wow thats out there. I've run them out that far when i need to run them at 30'. Do you troll U-rigs on leadcore or normal line?
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#13976 - 07/27/10 07:04 PM
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"Line Breaker"
Registered: 01/21/06
Posts: 518
Loc: Tucker, GA
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Brett-- I'm curious about how you can know what depth they run at any speed/wgt/line combination; how can you determine this without hitting the tops of trees that you know are 30' down and dealing with that mess? I guess I'm just curious about how you determine this. thanks
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#13978 - 07/27/10 09:56 PM
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"Line Breaker"
Registered: 11/25/07
Posts: 1123
Loc: Cumming, GA
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I was bumping bottom running thru a very long stretch of clean flat bottom. Remember that the more line that you have out, the more of a curve or parachute effect you will get in your line. So there is not a constant formula to the number of feet of line per ft of depth.
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#13981 - 07/27/10 10:38 PM
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"Line Breaker"
Registered: 01/21/06
Posts: 518
Loc: Tucker, GA
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Thanks-- I figured it had to be more of a test and see instead of a set formula. If I can ask one more: Where is such bottom in lanier?
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#13982 - 07/27/10 11:26 PM
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"Line Breaker"
Registered: 11/25/07
Posts: 1123
Loc: Cumming, GA
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I'm not certain, i was fishing a tx at Hartwell when was running them at that depth, and have used it since then with some success. The depth was so consistant that i just kept letting out line until i started bumping.
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#13983 - 07/27/10 11:44 PM
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"Wall Hanger"
Registered: 08/23/09
Posts: 208
Loc: Grayson
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Brett-- I'm curious about how you can know what depth they run at any speed/wgt/line combination; how can you determine this without hitting the tops of trees that you know are 30' down and dealing with that mess? I guess I'm just curious about how you determine this. thanks There is a chart that comes with the Capt Mack U-Rigs. Tells you how many ft out vs ft down. Of course there are always variables such as braid vs mono, current, wind, but it will put you real close. Better than just guessing...
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#13985 - 07/27/10 11:57 PM
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"Line Breaker"
Registered: 11/25/07
Posts: 1123
Loc: Cumming, GA
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If i remeber correct, Macks tables are based upon 1/2oz jigs and 40# mono. But i could be wrong. I think that he said that he may be coming out with some additional tables based upon other weights and line weigths. Someone ought to come up with a set of tables based upon different weights, lines, and speeds; put in on a plastic flip chart and sell them for $10 a pop. I would buy one. That would be a $1,000,000 idea, if you could only find 100,000 folks to buy one!
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#13988 - 07/28/10 11:55 AM
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"Line Breaker"
Registered: 01/21/06
Posts: 518
Loc: Tucker, GA
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sounds like a great idea; I'll bet there are 100K fishermen across the US that would be game--- don't forget that u-rigs are used in salt water up the east coast and in the chesapeake. (Yes-- a great idea--- I'm glad i came up with it...:-) )
Right now I'm working on a type of sticky yellow squares of paper that you can write notes on.
Macs tables are definitely for a standard set of conditions, which are probably not "scalable"(sp?) for every line/wgt/speed/rig combos. Some kind of spreadsheet would be pretty useful
Any physics majors/engineers out there that can still work a slide rule??
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#13989 - 07/28/10 02:05 PM
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"Wall Hanger"
Registered: 12/24/08
Posts: 415
Loc: America
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Isn't it a fishin sayin to always zig zag big wide sweeps when trolling. You'd think this would drop the rigs deeper than 30 when zaggin out of a zig????
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#13991 - 07/28/10 03:18 PM
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"Line Breaker"
Registered: 07/15/10
Posts: 537
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Yeah - Zig Zagging would defintely drop it a bit but how much is the question. I wouldnt think it would be more than a foot or depending on the depth of the zag.
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#13995 - 07/28/10 07:06 PM
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"Line Breaker"
Registered: 02/12/09
Posts: 1123
Loc: Lilburn, GA
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What works very nicely is to pull the motor out of gear for how many seconds you wish to drop the rigs, but the real bonus is when you put it back in gear and they shoot up this is usually when the strike will happen.
I use this method frequently while pulling lead core or for any trolling, this is especially effective while trolling shorter lines and you come to a drop off and they are sitting right on the slope. When you can about judge the distance of your lines, pull it out of gear and then hit it again and BAM!!! For the faint of heart do not try this method.
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#14000 - 07/28/10 11:12 PM
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"Line Breaker"
Registered: 11/25/07
Posts: 1123
Loc: Cumming, GA
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I usually run them in a constant tight swerve or "juke". If i am moving, the wheel is turning. My thought is that it is making the baits constantly move up and down in the water column. Maybe Bill will pop back in, he is them man with Urigs.
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#14002 - 07/29/10 12:22 AM
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"Wall Hanger"
Registered: 09/08/05
Posts: 421
Loc: McDonough
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Based on my experience today I think Brett is pretty close. I ran the U-rig out about 200ft on 130 lb braid and caught trees at around 30 feet. Came back looking like it had been through the trash compactor, but the 130 lb braid definitely gets the majority of your rig back.....
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